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Unhooking

Post by mjmmjm1 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:06 pm

Anyone out there who kites mainly at 3rd and/or Sherman just starting to unhook? I'm looking for folks to train with to hopefully speed up the progression. I've recently been unhooking and popping (not very well yet) working towards a raley and surface passes. Let me know if you're in the same boat...

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Re: Unhooking

Post by le noun » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:08 pm

Same boat. Same spots.
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Post by tknighty » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:51 am

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Re: Unhooking

Post by keithdkd » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:55 pm

This thread is relevant to my interests.

When learning to unhook, do you suicide leash, or just hope you won't lose your bar and have to swim?

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Re: Unhooking

Post by Red_Element_Andy » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:12 pm

keithdkd wrote:This thread is relevant to my interests.

When learning to unhook, do you suicide leash, or just hope you won't lose your bar and have to swim?
What do you mean by 'lose your bar and have to swim?'

It depends on the bar - modern Cabrinha's, for example, don't flag out if you let go of an unhooked bar, so you simply pull the loop back to your hook. If you do this quickly you can get hooked back in before the kite hits the water.

On the other hand, most *will* flag if you are unhooked - so hooking the leash around not just the O-ring, but the chicken loops as well helps keep even line lengths when you let go of the bar.

With 'breakaway' style chicken loops (Blade, Ozone) the kite will fully depower when you punch out (good!). However, there still is a risk of simply not being able to get to the loop itself (e.g. if your leash is attached in the back, pulling you backwards, and death-looping *and* far-away on an extended leash --- that would be bad). But I suppose you would then simply punch out of the harness-side of the leash.

For these reasons I will clip into 'suicide' when trying unhooking, but otherwise keep it 'normal.'

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Re: Unhooking

Post by Arnaud » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:10 am

I'd also recommend using some depower at first so that it's more progressive and reduces the chances of the kite back-stalling.
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Re: Unhooking

Post by ramsey » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:02 pm

come to the lower launch at 3rd. there are many (including myself) that can help you progress. It helps to watch people who are unhooking frequently and also be around people that can see what you are doing and help you make adjustments.

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Re: Unhooking

Post by maxsteamer » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:30 am

1. Fly the kite up to 12 on the beach.... unhook safely from the bar by keeping one hand on the C/ loop....the other on the bar...set your AOA by pulling in some depower...the kite should direct to both sides of the window unhooked.... if not reset till it does.... hook back in & your ready to go..remember your kite is set to fly unhooked..meaning it will not have as much power & may back fly a bit... it will take time to find the sweet spot & this will change with the wind.

2. Watch how other kiters unhook..& how they hook back in ...some launch spots have rules about this subject & asking would be 100% correct as to not piss off your fellow kiters.. even if everything works out it would be smart to ask a few questions ..this is just the right thing to do & trust me !! 3rd is loaded with some of the best kiters on the bay & to lose there respect for a advanced spot will not be good.

3. I'm sure you have the right idea as you posted your question here on BAK so good luck with unhooking & your going to love flying this way....remember if the sh*t hits the fan let go of the bar & grab that C/loop & hook back in before the kite hits the water... Cheers
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Re: Unhooking

Post by NorCalNomad » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:11 pm

Yeah I'm at about the same place as you, and mostly at upper third. If you see a guy in all red and blue ion gear (suit, vest, harness) that's me.

I really wish people would understand that when you're on a port tack over in the flat water area not to fing cut in front of you. Yeah I understand that going starboard gives your right of way but don't be a dick about it and just take priority and make someone move for no reason. There was one guy last session I had who even when up wind of me would cut down wind and/or jump in front of me. And that was after I'd been up there praciticig for at least 45min to a hour. You'd have to be pretty thick to not see/ realize what I'm doing.
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