sherman traffic

[windhorny]

yeah, not that I throw down anything there but i would have had NO idea about port tach right of way. I just assume when things get tight stick with the REAl rules of sailing that everyone follows. but i guess i can see why that is advantageous there.

[friggin old guy]

I won't even try to come in low on starboard behind the island.....I assume that I need to tuck up high to allow port tackers to huck.......

[Tunces]

Okay, so to be clear, the standard rules of sailing which are accepted worldwide are in place except when they are totally reversed without posting by a small group of kiters at Sherman??!!!?? This is ludicrous.[-X [-X

[Tunces]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that starboard takers shouldn't yield to port takers at a spot which is clearly port advantageous. Kiters should realize that, when on starboard, they should stay out of the way. If someone comes through the area on starboard, they should be talked to about the local conditions and guided to stay clear of port takers in the zone. But to state that port has right of way in contrary to the rules of sailing and will just add to the confusion.

[fearlu]

I think if you ever dive into the rotation there with other riders it will be evident to you what has been accepted by user-convention. If you are not clear on this, just sit back and observe a few cycles and it becomes apparent what these folks are suggesting and the reasons for the informal site-rules you are concerned about.

[Tunces]

I think if you ever dive into the rotation there with other riders it will be evident to you what has been accepted by user-convention. If you are not clear on this, just sit back and observe a few cycles and it becomes apparent what these folks are suggesting and the reasons for the informal site-rules you are concerned about.

I agree. It is self evident that the local conditions require a port approach. All one needs to do is take a moment to evaluate the situation before jumping in.

The problem with reversing right of way rules is that there is no defined line where the rule reverts to starboard right of way. For example, kiters in the rotation downwind wouldn't know when to revert to standard port-starboard rules. It just adds to the confusion.

[adamrod]

- by convention, port tack has right of way behind the island.

huh? what convention do you speak of? standard sailing convention is that starboard has right of way. I didn't know there were any other marine traffic conventions to follow at a flatwater spot. this the first I've ever heard of the "port tack has right of way behind the island" and I've been kiting there for almost ten years. have I really been pissing off sherman kiters for the better part of a decade? :shock:

as a general rule, I always try to give way to the guy about to throw down, whatever tack he's on, but can someone please explain to me the physics of why we're reversing sailing convention here? seems like it would create a ton of confusion when visiting kiters come to town...in addition to folks that don't read this forum...

help me out here...why exactly?

[BAK_iphone]

Yes, admittedly this differs from normal open water sailing but in this case is interpreted as the rider riding away from the beach (riders back facing beach) having ROW...

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[adamrod]

I think if you ever dive into the rotation there with other riders it will be evident to you what has been accepted by user-convention. If you are not clear on this, just sit back and observe a few cycles and it becomes apparent what these folks are suggesting and the reasons for the informal site-rules you are concerned about.

i really don't think i'm that oblivious, but i've never noticed this. and i've kited plenty behind the island. can someone draw me a map with arrows or something? why does the fact that there's an island change right of way rules?

i think a better rule is, standard sailing rules apply, but if you want to be nice, give way to the dude throwing down or carving a sweet turn, regardless of tack or right of way. that's the way it seems to work everywhere else...

[BAK_iphone]

I know it's kind of a hokey link and it of course maintains the starboard ROW standard but #4 shows the beach inclusion, which for the launch would of course be starboard but for the leeward side of second island is port...

www.ehow.com/i/#article_8995

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