North Demo @ Crissy

whitecap · Post by **whitecap** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:54 am

Scott -

I was guilty of not stopping either....that was a huge freighter, and you were pretty much in it's path.....However, you had the kite on it's side, and it looked like you were going to get it up pretty quickly....We were all riding right by you to help the pilot see you, right?

Say Ollie - Thanks for the show yesterday. While the good wind was out the Gate, along with all the kiters, Ollie threw up the type wave, and put on his usual kite looping show for the rest of us at the beach, drinkin beers and chillin'

bob

OliverG · Post by **OliverG** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:17 pm

Bob,

Anytime, I'm a sucker for a crowd. I actually found myself way lit outside so decided to stay inside. Outside I could have been on the TW10 easily. I had a blast and saved the biggest kiteloop to pull the trigger on right behind the port side of the Red & White ferry and the tourists went nuts. :rolleyes: :supz: Yeehaw!

panzerfaust · Post by **panzerfaust** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:13 pm

So Ollie, what's your recipe for a huge kiteloop? :)

OliverG · Post by **OliverG** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:46 pm

1. A kite that is going to turn reasonably fast on it's axis rather than wingtip. I've found the RRD Type Wave to be my favorite and fastest, but Fuels, Vegas', Type 7's, all modern mid-aspect kites,etc...

2. Be committed. Period. Resist changing your mind in mid-flight. Look for a nice takeoff. Getting thrown off balance by a wayward chop on takeoff can be problematic.

3. Start small and work your way up. To start small, cruise along on your favorite tack and send the kite a bit for a small jump and as soon as you start your takeoff, sheet out a bit and pull *hard* with your back hand. Keep your front hand off the bar or on the same side as your back hand, as your instinct will be to correct and that's when you get hurt. The idea is to get the kite back up above you asap for a reasonably workable landing instead of a painful hard board-breaking explosion.

You'll want to point downwind as much as possible for your landings, which will be hot. Bigger, faster loops produce hotter, faster landings, so try to point downwind for success and to save your board.

4. To work your way up, you're going to start sending the kite harder and pulling the trigger with your back hand later. The biggest loops can be done in lit conditions with plenty of power for fast kite flight, lots of air and downwind travel. Make sure to allow plenty of room downwind! Also, try unhooked with both hands on the back of the bar (fishing pole) kiteloops, and back and frontroll loops. But not at Crissy, not much room for error there...

Anyone else, feel free to add with your input.

Be safe!

Ollie

panzerfaust · Post by **panzerfaust** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:53 pm

I've been doing kiteloops for a while now but they don't feel as huge as when you do it. I like to do it best with a back/front roll because if I don't see the kite I don't have the urge to chicken out :). For some reason I can't get the nerve up to do it while facing the kite.

Also, do you usually pop air and then pull or just go from say 2 o'clock all the way around? I mean, when I see you do it, it looks like you're moving very far laterally. I usually feel like I haven't gone too far down or too high up. I want to be able to be over the kite :).

OliverG · Post by **OliverG** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:12 pm

Hmm, good question. Let's hope for a good day soon so we can exchange notes. There are many different kinds of loops and loop combos to do, some are more radical than others. But I think it's safe to say that the biggest and most radical ones require the most commitment and carry the most potential for carnage... but the more you commit the safer the outcome will be, it's an all or nothing deal.

panzerfaust · Post by **panzerfaust** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:16 pm

Hehe, I know exactly what you mean. It is imperative to follow through, the first few times around I chickened out and damn did it hurt.

Hope to see you out before I leave, I'm gonna have to represent in Tarifa :). By the way, where can I get a few BayAreaKiteboarding hoodies before next wednesday?

OliverG · Post by **OliverG** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:35 pm

Out of hoodies, but can hook you up with some tshirts for export... I'll put them in the truck. Tarifa sounds great, I'm stoked for Outer Banks this week. Let's hope for good wind in our respective destinations.

Greg · Post by **Greg** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:08 am

shoot, allll i'm doing is going to work....
Enjoy,
Limpy

whitecap · Post by **whitecap** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:47 am

If you want to get over the kite, get some good air like a regular jump, then loop the kite early, and kinda slow....but....you are playing with fire when you do that! It is funny, 'cus I also am way more comfortable back roll looping without seeing the kite that a straight jump and loop. My kid Alex is way better at unhooked fishing pole raley type jumps. You get huge pop with a fishing pole....I like to back roll, stall, then loop it. The higher the jump, and the slower the loop, the more whip you get from the kite. When you move the kite fast, you hang, and the kite loops quick - you can kinda stay in control. If you loop it slow, it feels like the kite is the stationary object, and you are getting thrown around the kite.....that is very cool, but a bit scary, and good luck with your landing!

Bob

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