Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

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Postby tgautier » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:39 pm

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

Postby Tony Soprano » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:41 pm

recoprianto wrote:
Tony Soprano wrote:This was all caused by some kite boarders being jerks to a family with small children.


You say this like you were on the beach while this whole thing started. I am guessing you were not.

I was there almost every day during the beginning of this little spat. The family started most of this and a few (2-3) kiters that stayed involved and made it worse than it should have been...then this family then made it their personal cross to never "give up the fight" and get kiting banned at Kitebeach.



BFD, I am well aware of the situation, kite boarders need to tread lightly on a multi use beaches.
Know there are consequences, they picked on the wrong person.
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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

Postby sanjose_kiter » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Signed.

and put in following opinion "I always wanted to go there for kitesurfing. If this ban will be in effect, I will go else where"
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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

Postby Aloha » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:53 pm

I don't think there's anything wrong with hearing the voice of a visitor and respecting the fact that they feel dissatisfied - but they must also realize reason stands that it would be for the greater good not to enforce a ban as others mentioned

With a little tolerance and cooperation I'm sure there is enough island to go around for everyone no matter what one likes to do... But I think visitors should be as prepared to respect that philosophy as Maui is prepared to welcome them to their home

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Postby kitenaked » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:41 pm

recoprianto wrote:
Tony Soprano wrote:This was all caused by some kite boarders being jerks to a family with small children.


You say this like you were on the beach while this whole thing started. I am guessing you were not.

I was there almost every day during the beginning of this little spat. The family started most of this and a few (2-3) kiters that stayed involved and made it worse than it should have been...then this family then made it their personal cross to never "give up the fight" and get kiting banned at Kitebeach.


So he was right....


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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

Postby Tony Soprano » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:56 pm

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

Postby Tony Soprano » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:59 pm

(*tt Grow up idiots
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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

Postby Tony Soprano » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:00 pm

This all came about when a family complained about kiters coming into a swimming area. The kiters said they need this particular area to launch during certain wind conditions. I'm sure this is true. But, the kiters, instead of doing the right thing and trying to work it out with the swimmers, or working with the authorities to get the swimming area moved, foolishly escalated things by making it personal between them and the family. Apparently there were threats, swearing, name calling, near fights, and vandalism (the family car's tires were punctured by someone).

In contrast to this, for years windsurfers have helped maintain the buoys and lines marking the swimming area roped off near where the lifeguard station used to be. And, at times when the lines were down we let tourists know to stay out of these areas. Unfortunately the kiters don't seem to know that they and we won't get what we want by antagonizing others.

The state has now posted signs declaring some areas to be swimming areas based on laws that go back decades. This means nobody can legally launch there or come in there (especially bad if one has a break down or the wind drops).

Now we're forced to do what the kiters should have done at the start: work with the authorities to recognize the need for us to have shoreline access in particular areas, and that swimming areas can be moved to areas that don't interfere with windsport access.
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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

Postby windstoked » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:06 pm

The bigger picture here is what does this mean for NorCal access?
We need to be proactive in avoiding a situation like that here.
One of the places I'm concerned about is Dillon.
That's one of the places where the most user variability is concentrated.
Maybe we should come up with launch guidelines there that will minimize the chances of an accident or possibly worse a fight like they they got that started this whole thing at Kanaha.
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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned?, Petition to save

Postby Tony Soprano » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:47 am

I am a San Francisco Board Sailing Association volunteer Site steward and field representative.

When Jesse Richman was passing through this summer he commented on the problems on Maui and asked for my advice.

I gave him all the written information I had. He commented on our good efforts on safety, access and getting along with other user groups.
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