Another idea for safety on crowded days.

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Another idea for safety on crowded days.

Post by windhorny » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:03 am

What if, on crowded days, we made a rule that only a certain number of kites can be in the air at once. So if a kiter is about to launch and he/she looks up and sees 3 kites in the air he/she waits. This may not only help reduce collisions and clutter but it may also force ourselves to help other kiters that are having problems. I guess the only real issue with this would be, who is next? Those that are truly desperate to get out often go into selfish " I have to get out NOW!" mode. It is apparent to me, that above all else, I am just going to have to relax when I get to the beach and not feel like I have to be the first one on the water.


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Post by Greg » Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:43 pm

Yes I think we're going to have to take a few chill pills from now and then.
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Post by OliverG » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:22 pm

Yuri,

Very good point. I know one or two of the, "Out of my way, I have to get out on the water, now!" types and their selfishness or eagerness may need to be tempered from time to time.

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Post by Stefano Moris » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:41 pm

I think that is a great idea Yuri because a number is pretty clearcut, like the kite in hand when you hit the sand rule. Also perhaps changing right of way to those coming in (like sherman) would make sure that people are sensitive to whats happeing in the water, not just on the beach. (I'm worried about a backlog of people waiting to come in and piling up while there is an endless que of luanchers, but I guess that issue goes both ways) -stef

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Post by jjm » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:50 pm

There was mention of getting permission for the school zone to be moved downwind to where the beach is wider. Assuming this is allowed, would the current school zone still be kept for other school related activities?

If not, could there be seperate launch/landing zones in the main area? That way landing kites could still be given priority, but it wouldn't hold up launches once safely on the ground due to line crossing.

Maybe it could be used for this when lessons are not in session?

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Post by jjm » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:27 pm

FKSA: NEW CRANDON PARK RULES

An example of limiting number of kiters. Specifically:

"Kitesurfer must check into the Park Office prior to accessing the beach. A minimum P.A.S.A. or I.K.O. level 3 certification must be obtained and a copy will be kept on file. Kitesurfers will be issued a pennant that must be flown while kite is in use. A limited number of pennants will be given out daily on a first come first served basis. "

I believe these rules where created after Claudios accident?

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Post by OliverG » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:19 pm

I don't know when those rules were implemented, but it does show an organized group can up with a plan that works and that promotes safety and preserves access. Pretty cool, if you ask me.

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Post by Don Bogardus » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:34 pm

I think a few orgaizational rules followed on beach and in water can clear up alot of problems on crowded days.There should be plenty of room if everyone sails outside in a conservative manner and stays away from the beach in general, (when its crowded).Rules written in stone suck and should be based on conditions.

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Post by charlie » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:11 pm

IT is ALL ,AbOuT outside......


....... if hotshots ..and .....DiCk.hEaDS........., keep ride n inside..
.... we All DiE.... .
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Post by Bob » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:30 am

Elegantly stated Charlie:

If Peacocks.
Were not sweeping kites over the heads of beach goers, beach goers would not have complained to the Park (repeatedly, repeatedly).

And the passive walking of kites up the beach would be ok.

But, it ain't so.

F**# riding in the first 200 feet of "Butter Water" Save Beach Access for All Kiters - Me, You and the Newbies of tomorrow.

Use the other four miles of water the Park has provided us access to.

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