dewey wrote:Ollie you went with the windwings??? I saw that you are running their ad.
Yes, they looked interesting to me so I got a quiver of the Rage II's with the CC bar. I got an 8, 10, 12 and 14 and briefly flew the 12 in hard-line mode and then the 14m in underpowered conditions with the CC bar and SAFE bridle. Initial impressions are good, but I haven't had enough time on any of them yet to get a complete impression. Hopefully I will soon!
dewey wrote:I'd love to hear your review!!! Why not the outrage??
I was on the verge of ordering the Outrages, but they seemed hugely high-aspect. Awesome for lots of lift and hangtime, but I decided to go with the mod-aspect as that's what I've come to like more over the last year. They tend to have more low-end, turn more on their axis and tend to fly a bit more stable. Just what I gotten used to I suppose, although I do still have (and like) a couple of high-aspect kites in bigger sizes.
just back from barbados. Was on my 21 nemi most often. Big waves and light wind.
I tried the new 17m Rage 2 one day for 2 hours. light winds. quick flier and easy re-launch. Nice kite, and very stable. But years of High AR (naish arx's, x's and Best Nemi's) It was a bit different than used to.
Good construction and and great de-power (although I was never able to get the SAFE system to work, it re-launched easy enough anyway. I set up the safe BALL incorrectly looping it as shown...it's wrong on the directions) Anyway, I think I may need to try the outrage, since my quiver is all high AR.
the cc bar works great The guys at the 800 number are awesome and always helpful. All in all a great buy.
i had trouble with getting the safe system to work so i just started flying these hardline. i did find that there was way too much rear line slack, so i took the short pigtails for the safe leading edge attachments, and added them to the front line pigtails. also, at the bar, i used the tightest knot on the rear lines. after both of these somewhat extreme measures, i find that the kites are now well trimmed. if i have the trim strap set to max power i can overtrim a couple inches, which means i still have a huge range of depower. this setting has worked in both light and overpowered conditions. i did find the kites easily overflew the window when at neutral in funky winds and can somewhat easily drop from the sky--maybe i was just spoiled by my old kites. so it's good to have the option of oversheeting to keep them back in their place.
Yes, you will surely want to get your SAFE bridles dialed in. Without them, you are sacrificing much of what the kites are about. Once you have them on and dialed in, you'll be happy you took the time.
i don't know, i am pretty sure i had them rigged right. when i pulled them by hand they operated correctly. but it seemed like there was so much friction on the line inside the sleave, which is compressed by the batten, that the system wouldn't engage in normal conditions. the guys at windwing said that this is by design and that it only engages in very overpowered conditions, and they usually fly them hardline. i was fully powered, so if the system doesn't engage in that condition then it's just for freak emergencies.
does it engage for you in normal conditions when you simply push the bar away? when i have a chance i am going to try putting the line outside the sleave to see if that makes it more responsive, but i haven't had the time to play with this yet--i wanted a setup so the kites just work.