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Must have sizes for bay area

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 2:44 pm
by panzerfaust
I'm going for the windwing buy one get one .5 off deal and I'd like some input on what are the two must have sizes for the bay area. I'm also not exactly sure if I should get two Rages2 since I'm a beginner or should I go with the rapture or outrage and learn further on that. I'm 5'9 at 150lbs.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 2:49 pm
by panzerfaust
Another question, what would be the justification for buying any of the Cabrinha kites that cost twice as much and are pretty much made out of the same fabric? (well, besides the fact that it has a big C printed on the canopy)

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 2:58 pm
by pipedragon
panzerfaust wrote:Another question, what would be the justification for buying any of the Cabrinha kites that cost twice as much and are pretty much made out of the same fabric? (well, besides the fact that it has a big C printed on the canopy)
None really. The windwings are great looking well built kites. They just have a direct marketing approuch to cut on cost. They are not cheap kites just because they cost less. I would also talk to Jeff though at kitewindsurf in Alameda because he may be able to beat out windwings prices. I personnaly ride Naish but wish they went to the same direct marketing but I like what I ride and have always been happy with Naish. I also keep my kites a bit longer then one season so I break even in the long run. You can't really go wrong anymore on new kites.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:06 pm
by panzerfaust
pipedragon wrote:
panzerfaust wrote:Another question, what would be the justification for buying any of the Cabrinha kites that cost twice as much and are pretty much made out of the same fabric? (well, besides the fact that it has a big C printed on the canopy)
None really. The windwings are great looking well built kites. They just have a direct marketing approuch to cut on cost. They are not cheap kites just because they cost less. I would also talk to Jeff though at kitewindsurf in Alameda because he may be able to beat out windwings prices. I personnaly ride Naish but wish they went to the same direct marketing but I like what I ride and have always been happy with Naish. I also keep my kites a bit longer then one season so I break even in the long run. You can't really go wrong anymore on new kites.
Thanks for the response, I'll call Jeff right now.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 5:48 pm
by dewey
If you do go with the WW kites, 12m and 16m rage2 would be my advise. Jeff's a good guy and will help you out either way you go.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 6:35 pm
by OliverG
In my opinion, the Rage II's perform better, turn faster, have more depower and range and won't be outgrown as soon as the Cabrinha Element which is the entry-level kite that is available locally. The Rage II can also be flown in any one of three configurations, using the SAFE bridles, the JumpStart relaunch bridles, or fixed-line mode, making it pretty versatile. Just my two cents, and I haven't flown any of the new Elements, just based on the description of it from the Cab site.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:44 pm
by panzerfaust
BayAreaKite wrote:In my opinion, the Rage II's perform better, turn faster, have more depower and range and won't be outgrown as soon as the Cabrinha Element which is the entry-level kite that is available locally. The Rage II can also be flown in any one of three configurations, using the SAFE bridles, the JumpStart relaunch bridles, or fixed-line mode, making it pretty versatile. Just my two cents, and I haven't flown any of the new Elements, just based on the description of it from the Cab site.
Hey guys, thanks so much for the input.

What do you mean that Rage2s turn faster? (I mean, compared to what?)
My whole dillema is that I want to buy kites that will allow me to progress. Also, I'm the kind of person that doesn't need new gear everytime the new flashy thing comes out. I'm planning to keep the kites for a couple of years.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:55 pm
by OliverG
panzerfaust wrote:
BayAreaKite wrote:In my opinion, the Rage II's perform better, turn faster, have more depower and range and won't be outgrown as soon as the Cabrinha Element which is the entry-level kite that is available locally. The Rage II can also be flown in any one of three configurations, using the SAFE bridles, the JumpStart relaunch bridles, or fixed-line mode, making it pretty versatile. Just my two cents, and I haven't flown any of the new Elements, just based on the description of it from the Cab site.
Hey guys, thanks so much for the input.

What do you mean that Rage2s turn faster? (I mean, compared to what?)
My whole dillema is that I want to buy kites that will allow me to progress. Also, I'm the kind of person that doesn't need new gear everytime the new flashy thing comes out. I'm planning to keep the kites for a couple of years.
I was just saying that in my opinion, as a mid-aspect kite, the Rage II's turn faster than the Cab Element, a locally available (KWS) entry-level kite that may come in at a comparable price-point as the WW, and that the RII wouldn't be a kite that would be outgrown anytime soon as your skills progress.

Ollie

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 9:47 pm
by Pablito(guest)
If you're wondering if you'll outgrow the Rage IIs, search back a month or so on this forum and check out the pics of Ollie jumping his.

If I'm doing that next year on my Rage II, I'll be pretty psyched. (Started kiting last fall...)

Paul

Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:54 am
by charlie
funny thing is when it gets good and windy
olli rigs up a rageII,sometimes...
so i dont think you can outgrow it.