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Crissy field action items that affect the status quo.

Postby Tony Soprano » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:33 pm

Hello, anybody who loves to kite, windsurf and hangout at Crissy field should become involved with the issues that affect the status quo.
1 :Commissary project were the sports basement is currently located.
2: Proposed relocation of the sports basement across the street from east beach parking lot.
3: The proposed dog management plan.
4: Restoration of the lawns were we rig up.
5: Possibility of the park service charging to park at east beach.
6. Those commuting from Marin , the possible toll increase on the Golden Gate Bridge.

There are public meeting comment periods now for the Dog management plan, Commissary project, and Sports basement relocation. Coming soon is a comment period for the toll increase on the Bridge.

Please go to the presidio trust website for more information and or the SFBA facebook page.

I suggest that the Commissary Project be turned into open space with no buildings other than maybe restrooms and an outdoor shower.

PRESIDIO TRUST PUBLIC BOARD MEETING

October 24, 2013, 6:30pm, doors open at 5:30
Observation Post, 211 Lincoln Boulevard, Main Post, Presidio, San Francisco, CA 94129

At this public meeting of the Presidio Trust Board of Directors, the board will take public comment on the final proposals for the Mid-Crissy Field Site. The seven members of the Trust Board will make the final decision on the proposals and this is the last opportunity for public comment in person. There will be no presentations at this event, only public comment.

Written comments should be submitted by November 15, 2013. Comments may be sent by email to sportsbasementea@presidiotrust.gov, or by mail to Sports Basement EA, Attn: Compliance Manager, The Presidio Trust, 103 Montgomery Street, P.O. Box 29052, San Francisco, CA 94129-0052.

The issue is , if the sports basement moves across the street from crissy east beach, the sports basement parking lot will be charging for parking, causing people to park at east beach because it is free parking. The presidio trust is trying to get the GGNRA to charge for parking at east beach.


Folks-Please make sure you take the opportunity to weigh in on proposed dog regulations at Crissy Field. The proposal will restrict dogs to on-leash in the parking lot and promenade and will allow off leash dogs to the west of the East Beach. This debate has been going on for some time and I personally believe that this compromise plan will allow for all folks to enjoy the great resource that is Crissy Field. Providing supportive and productive comments will help put this issue to bed once and for all.

http://parkplanning.nps.gov/commentForm ... ntID=55416
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Postby Ayer Nakite » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:44 pm

Maybe do a spell check and grammar review if you expect SF educated kiters to get on board. Lacking credibility the way it reads. But thanks for posting.
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Postby Tony Soprano » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:41 pm

Ayer Nakite wrote:Maybe do a spell check and grammar review if you expect SF educated kiters to get on board. Lacking credibility the way it reads. But thanks for posting.



Attention, only under educated kite boarders need pay attention to my post.

Ayer Nakite please spell check and grammar review my post for the SF educated kiters.

Thank You
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Postby le noun » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:45 am

Ayer Nakite wrote:Maybe do a spell check and grammar review if you expect SF educated kiters to get on board. Lacking credibility the way it reads. But thanks for posting.

Jeff is the major of Crissy.
I don't care about his grammar. If he posts something about Crissy: I just read and memorized.
Now, his spell check might not be "tip top" but every pieces of information he's dropped about Crissy on this website is always useful.
I'm glad that some people pay more attention to the spelling than the actual content though... MJ0_
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Re: Crissy field action items that affect the status quo.

Postby ozchrisb » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:48 pm

Thanks Jeff,
It's strange that SB would charge for parking if/when they move. I can't find that in the links, but is it part of the deal that they have to charge for parking?
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Re: Crissy field action items that affect the status quo.

Postby Tony Soprano » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:06 pm

ozchrisb wrote:Thanks Jeff,
It's strange that SB would charge for parking if/when they move. I can't find that in the links, but is it part of the deal that they have to charge for parking?
Chris


YES, I talked to John Pelka of the presidio trust. It is in the presidio and the presidio charges for parking. They are pressuring the GGNRA to also charge for parking to encourage alternate transportation. I do not understand all aspects of this deal.
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Re: Crissy field action items that affect the status quo.

Postby le noun » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:06 pm

Well, if they charge like lindamar has been doing this year for $3 for 4hours and the money is poured directly back to crissy field park (better showers etc...) then sure... why not.
If they charge "San francisco price" at $2 per hour... then that sucks...

Jeff: you can probably get a residential permit with the amount of time you spend there. Lo)%
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Re: Crissy field action items that affect the status quo.

Postby Tony Soprano » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:33 am

http://www.presidio.gov/about/Administr ... 131004.pdf

page 20 of 104 talks about parking

PARKING
Parking: Not a Significant Effect Under NEPA
The Trust does not consider a lack of parking supply to be a significant environmental impact under the NEPA. As a result of parking shortfalls, individuals who would prefer to drive may use alternate means of transportation because the perceived convenience of driving is lessened by a shortage of parking. This shortage is not considered significant because it implements Trust transportation demand management policies intended to reduce park-wide traffic congestion, and air quality, noise and safety impacts caused by congestion. The Trust, however, does acknowledge that parking conditions are of interest to the public and decisionmakers, and therefore provides the following parking analysis for informational purposes only.
The parking lot on the south and west sides of the Mason Street Warehouses is being designed and constructed as part of the Presidio Parkway reconstruction project. The Trust intends to charge parking fees after the lot is constructed to discourage automobile use and promote more sustainable means of travel. Trust planning efforts implementing the PTMP are geared toward limiting parking supply to the extent possible without impeding the Trust’s ability to attract tenants to reuse historic buildings, and designing parking facilities to accommodate average rather than peak demand.8 Preliminary design plans indicate the parking lot would have approximately 213 parking spaces.
Parking at East Beach (Area A) can accommodate 370 cars. Paved parking is available for 211 cars and unpaved parking is sufficient for 159 cars (NPS 2009). The unpaved area is used for overflow parking when demand for parking is high, such as during special events and on weekends. Parking demand varies depending on the day of week, time of day, and season. On most days, parking demand at East Beach is well under capacity but is practically at capacity (90 percent utilized) during peak season weekends (NPS et.al. 2012).
During peak event days, the NPS and the Trust currently implement several measures identified in their respective transportation demand management (TDM) programs that result in more efficient use of the parking spaces provided. These measures include providing and encouraging alternate means of transportation, such as public transit (including the PresidiGo Shuttle), bicycling, walking and carpools, providing for satellite parking facilities, and requiring valet service. The General Management Plan Amendment (GMPA) (NPS 1994) also calls for fees and time limitations, which have been used elsewhere within Area A to manage
8 PTMP, Parking Management, page 51. 26 Sports Basement
parking.9 However, parking at East Beach remains unrestricted (i.e., no time restrictions and free).
Would the parking demand associated with the relocated Sports Basement be accommodated within the proposed supply?
The parking demand associated with Sports Basement customers and employees would generally be accommodated within the parking supply by the new lot and on-street stalls. Based on surveys of Sports Basement in its current location where parking is currently free and unregulated, Sports Basement is expected to have a weekday (average) demand of approximately 125 parking spaces and a weekend (peak) demand of approximately 185 parking spaces, which would be adequately accommodated within the total supply of 213 spaces in the proposed parking lot. However, since parking management (fees) would be used to discourage single-occupant automobile use by Sports Basement employees and customers and to encourage transportation alternatives, it is possible that some drivers may seek currently unmanaged parking at East Beach. Any spillover could be limited by implementation of a parkwide approach to discouraging automobile use and promoting more sustainable means of travel as identified in the following excerpted PTMP EIS and GMPA EIS mitigation measures:
TR-21 Presidio-Wide Parking Management. In order to reduce impacts of fee parking in Area B on parts of the Presidio outside the Trust’s jurisdiction (Area A), the NPS is encouraged to implement parking regulations, time-limits and/or parking fees in potentially affected parking areas under its administration (notably, Crissy Field). The
9 GMPA, Parking Management, page 48. Environmental Assessment 27
Trust would provide assistance to the NPS to ensure coordination and consistency of parking management within both Areas A and B…10
Parking Fee Support of Transit Services. The Park Service would consider implementing parking fees in certain areas to further discourage automobile use and to offset the costs to provide transit services…11
Should the NPS choose not to adopt or enforce either of these measures, visitors arriving to East Beach during peak weekends could have difficulty parking.
Despite readily available measures that would allow parking supply to be more efficiently utilized during event days, the NPS to date has been reluctant to consider parking restrictions at East Beach.
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The parking demand associated with this alternative would be approximately 167 spaces on weekdays and 63 spaces on weekends. Thus, the proposed parking lot would be able to accommodate the PTMP alternative’s parking demand.
Conclusion
The proposed parking lot to the south and west of the Mason Street Warehouses would have adequate capacity to accommodate parking demand from either the proposed action or the PTMP alternative. TDM strategies including parking management in Area B would encourage the use of alternative modes and minimize parking demand. Implementing parking management strategies in Area A as encouraged in the PTMP EIS and outlined in the GMPA EIS would mitigate the potential effect on parking conditions in Area A.
10 PTMP EIS, Parking, page 326.
11 GMPA EIS, Traffic and Transportation Systems, page 27. 28 Sports
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Re: Crissy field action items that affect the status quo.

Postby Tony Soprano » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:54 am

I interpret this as saying your comments concerning parking will not be taken into consideration.
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